This House Believes Israel is a Rogue State

Many years ago I used to have some sympathy for Israel; but not any longer. Last Friday at the UN Security Council the United States was the only nation to oppose/veto a draft resolution calling for measures to protect Palestinians after more than 100 were killed by Israeli fire during protests at the Gaza fence…

This reminded me of a very good debate at the Cambridge Union that I watched three years ago. The motion was: ‘This House Believes Israel is a Rogue State’. I wanted to embed the video in this post, but surprise, surprise, the audio on this Cambridge Union YouTube video has been totally scrambled: you can’t hear anything. I did a search for it on other video platforms, and surprise, surprise, all audio scrambled (I’m not enough of a techy to know how they do this). There’s a ‘but’ here, and that is, if you’ve got headphones and plug them into your computer you can hear this debate perfectly. The proposition team included American academic professor Norman Finkelstein, author of one of the best books about the Holocaust, The Holocaust Industry; Palestinian academic professor Ghada Karmi (University of Exeter) and Jewish human rights activist Ben White.

The opposition team was lead by Vivian Wineman, president of UK’s powerful Jewish Lobby, the Board of Deputies of British Jews. She was assisted by Hannah Weisfelt, director of Israel lobby Jewish group Yachad and Davis Lewin, deputy director of another Israeli advocacy Jewish group, the Henry Jackson Society.

It’s well worth listening to (but you’ll need headphones; and if you want to get to the juicy bit go 1 hour 10 in, when Davis Lewin is roundly booed by the Cambridge Union audience). Here’s the link…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjkivkkZYNo

PS, I’ll try to capture this Cambridge Union video and put it up on another platform with full audio.

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11 Responses to This House Believes Israel is a Rogue State

  1. freddy says:

    Blast at grain silo in eastern France leaves several injured
    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-france-grains-blast/blast-at-grain-silo-in-eastern-france-leaves-several-injured-idUSKCN1J210F
    Comptoir agricole declined to comment?

    Is it terror, again Rob?

  2. freddy says:

    “Officials said the reason for the eXplosion is unclear”

    when they say that after several hours, it means terror.

    This is on the Rhine at Strasbourg

  3. freddy says:

    Here is an example from 2002 New Year violence in Strasbourg
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/1736890.stm
    An explosion at a village hall in the French town of Barr, near Strasbourg, is reported to have left at least nine people injured.

    The cause of the blast, which occurred in the early hours of the morning, “was not immediately known”.

    Almost identical wording

    • freddy says:

      https://wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/03FRANKFURT2405_a.html
      Four Algerians and one Moroccan,
      part of a group commonly referred to as the “Frankfurt cell”
      or the “Meliani Group”, were arrested in December 2000.
      Bomb-making materials and weapons were found in their
      Frankfurt apartments. On March 10, 2003, four of the five
      defendants were sentenced to 10-12 years of prison (the
      possible maximum being 15) for plotting to bomb the
      Christmas market in Strasbourg, France.

      Looks like Strasbourg has been a terror target multiple times before

      • freddy says:

        Hello Rob,
        would you be able to guess, was the explosion in Strasbourg
        Terror?

        No mention of it whatsoever on the BBC?
        Yet one person got 2/3 burns

        • freddy says:

          You could not make this stuff up ( about MACRON)
          https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-44480957
          New dinner service for the Élysée Palace
          while moaning about welfare payments?

          • Rob Godfrey Rob Godfrey says:

            Freddy, are you familiar with Gearóid Ó Colmáin, who’s an Irish journalist and political analyst based in Paris? Gearóid Ó Colmáin makes a lefty like me look like a Tory! Here’s his latest missive, posted recently, about what’s going on in France (despite our political differences I do agree with much of what he says here)…

            http://www.gearoidocolmain.org/french-workers-need-diversity-carbon-taxes/

          • freddy says:

            It has been said that The Coalition of the willing is bombing in the area of Deir Ez Zur / border between Syria and Iraq, the Americans say it is not them, perhaps it is Israel? Many killed, again. Syria and Iraq are trying to normalize relations.
            https://sana.sy/en/?p=140133
            Syria, Iraq discuss efforts to reopen border crossing.
            https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-44519092
            An Iraqi paramilitary force has accused the US-led coalition against the Islamic State (IS) group of killing 22 of its fighters in an air strike in eastern Syria.

            However, the coalition says it did not carry out any strikes and US officials say that Israel is to blame.

            The Israeli army has not commented on the attack.

            Syrian state media had earlier reported that the coalition had hit pro-government forces, causing casualties.

            I would have though, for the region as a whole, it would be good that Syria was trying to asscociate/do business, with its neighbours, perhaps it does not suit everone?

  4. freddy says:

    Combined Joint Task Force-Operation Inherent Resolve
    16th March 2018
    cross-border activities by Americans Syria/Iraq
    https://www.military.com/daily-news/2018/03/16/us-hh-60-pave-hawk-crashes-western-iraq-killing-all-board.html
    A U.S. HH-60 Pave Hawk crashed in western Iraq on Thursday, killing all on board, according to a statement from U.S. Central Command officials.

    “All personnel aboard were killed in the crash,” said Brig. Gen. Jonathan P. Braga, director of operations

  5. freddy says:

    Syrian government forces and their Iran-backed allies will face “volcanoes of fire” if they launch a threatened offensive in the opposition-held southwest, a rebel commander told Reuters on Tuesday.

    Syria’s southwest has come into focus since President Bashar al-Assad and his allies crushed the last remaining rebel pockets near Damascus and Homs.

    Assad has vowed to recover opposition-held areas near the frontiers with Jordan and the Israeli-occupied Golan Heights
    https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-mideast-crisis-syria-southwest/syrian-rebel-warns-of-volcanoes-of-fire-if-assad-attacks-south-idUKKBN1JF1JE

    I’d like to ask, why do the United Nations put up with Israel’s controll of
    The Syrian Golan?

  6. freddy says:

    FBI agents discovered alleged child porn in Mr Schulte’s apartment after his arrest.

    Mr Schulte faces 13 separate charges and could face up to 135 years in prison if found guilty.
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-44542271

    They have no shame, the scum.

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